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<div>I think you need to analyze these reports and point to the bug. It is certainly possible there is a bug, but also this is the first time anyone can get a report on how their emails are seen (and I mean all their emails and more including fake ones) by
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<div>We are all still learning as we go.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Steve Henderson <<a href="mailto:steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com">steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:10:25 +0000<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Monica Chew <<a href="mailto:mmc@googlers.com">mmc@googlers.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org">dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org">dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [dmarc-discuss] GMail rua report error?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks Monica, I had thought of that, and others had suggested the same thing – as well as and domain spoofing, but I am an ESP, sending millions
of emails per day.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">DKIM is passed for every single record, without exception, so I can’t see spoofing being the answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">An ESP we have stats and tracking averages which show that forward rates are normally sub-1%, but I am getting 20 times more failures reported than
successes, this would be a forwarding rate 2000 times higher than average!! <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I can’t see any valid scenario which could result in those figures.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> Monica Chew [<a href="mailto:mmc@googlers.com">mailto:mmc@googlers.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 01 February 2012 18:13<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Henderson<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [dmarc-discuss] GMail rua report error?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Steve,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I work on Gmail spam. First, thanks for publishing a DMARC record! It's very exciting that records are being discovered as intended and producing reports, and better yet that people are trying to make sense of them :)<br>
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In the two examples you cite, the messages were forwarded. You can tell this because<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">appears in the XML. We report this because sometimes forwarding affects reporting, as in your case, or DMARC disposition. So, someone that your domain is sending to, is forwarding
through hotmail to their gmail account. The complete enumeration of this field is on page 57 of </span><a href="http://www.dmarc.org/draft-dmarc-base-00-01.txt">http://www.dmarc.org/draft-dmarc-base-00-01.txt</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Hope that helps,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Monica</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Steve Henderson <<a href="mailto:steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com">steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi there,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have implemented DMARC domain authentication for one of my sending domains (<a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a>)
and have started to receive reports from Gmail.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I believe there is a reporting error because 95% of the records in the report are emails which do not originate from my IP ranges. I could accept a couple
of spoofed domain attempts, but not 95% of the file.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">How do I progress the investigation of this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Many thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Steve Henderson</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">My _DMARC record is at _<a href="http://dmarc.communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">dmarc.communicatoremail.com</a> and is:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">"v=DMARC1; p=none; rua=mailto:<a href="mailto:steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com" target="_blank">steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com</a>; ruf=mailto:<a href="mailto:steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com" target="_blank">steve.henderson@communicatorcorp.com</a>;
rf=afrf; pct=1;"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This following examples are from the rua (aggregate report).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Example 1 - Hotmail source IP (65.55.90.13) and sending domain in spf test, with my domain in DKIM test</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">-<record> -<row> <source_ip><b>65.55.90.13</b></source_ip> <count>1</count> -<policy_evaluated> <disposition>none</disposition>
-<reason> <type>forwarded</type> <comment/> </reason> -<reason> <type>sampled_out</type> <comment/> </reason> </policy_evaluated> </row> -<identities> <header_from><b><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></b></header_from>
</identities> -<auth_results> -<dkim> <domain><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></domain> <result>pass</result> <human_result/> </dkim> -<spf> <domain><b><a href="http://live.co.uk" target="_blank">live.co.uk</a></b></domain>
<result>pass</result> </spf> </auth_results> </record></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Example 2 – everything tested against
<a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a> domain, but sending IP is wrong:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">-<record> -<row> <source_ip>72.34.34.37</source_ip> <count>1</count> -<policy_evaluated> <disposition>none</disposition>
-<reason> <type>forwarded</type> <comment/> </reason> -<reason> <type>sampled_out</type> <comment/> </reason> </policy_evaluated> </row> -<identities> <header_from><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></header_from>
</identities> -<auth_results> -<dkim> <domain><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></domain> <result>pass</result> <human_result/> </dkim> -<spf> <domain><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></domain>
<result>hardfail</result> </spf> </auth_results> </record></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Example 3 – everything passes, and originates from my IP ranges:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">-<record> -<row> <source_ip>62.216.252.191</source_ip> <count>1</count> -<policy_evaluated> <disposition>none</disposition>
-<reason> <type>sampled_out</type> <comment/> </reason> </policy_evaluated> </row> -<identities> <header_from><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></header_from> </identities> -<auth_results> -<dkim> <domain><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></domain>
<result>pass</result> <human_result/> </dkim> -<spf> <domain><a href="http://communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">communicatoremail.com</a></domain> <result>pass</result> </spf> </auth_results> </record></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Delivered-To:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Received: by 10.227.159.79 with SMTP id i15cs184986wbx;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; "> Wed, 1 Feb 2012 01:53:45 -0800 (PST)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Received: by 10.14.99.198 with SMTP id x46mr493293eef.92.1328090025122;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Return-Path: <<a href="mailto:development@communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">development@communicatoremail.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="http://t00.communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">t00.communicatoremail.com</a> (<a href="http://t00.communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">t00.communicatoremail.com</a>. [62.216.253.220])</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Received-SPF: pass (<a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>: domain of
<a href="mailto:development@communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">development@communicatoremail.com</a> designates 62.216.253.220 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.216.253.220;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="http://mx.google.com" target="_blank">mx.google.com</a>; spf=pass (<a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a>: domain of
<a href="mailto:development@communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">development@communicatoremail.com</a> designates 62.216.253.220 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=<a href="mailto:development@communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">development@communicatoremail.com</a>;
dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=<a href="mailto:development@communicatoremail.com" target="_blank">development@communicatoremail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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